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Android Sudden Battery Drain Syndrome!

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Sometimes, you might be surprised to see your Android battery draining like anything, like water flowing out of an open tap.  This unusual draining of battery is called Sudden Battery Drain Syndrome which is found  in almost  all Android devices.  It is found that the main culprit behind this situation is Google services or Play Services.  They keep on syncing or updating regardless of the availability of net connection.  The issue starts when they get stuck in the process which leads to unusual draining of battery power.  

As per experts, as a solution to this you can either reboot the device as soon as you see this or disable unnecessary Google services.  

http://www.thebitbag.com/android-sudden-battery-drain-syndrome-how-to-fix-google-play-services-from-draining-your-android-device/72977

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Really interesting article but the battery draining will increase more and more in the time passing and this is a fact like all electronics device. By the way, as my S4 is experiencing a bit of these troubles I'll give a shot about the method described in the article for sure.

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It's an unfortunate and poorly named bug in Google services. The best thing to do is disable the offending services when possible until Google gets the problem patched. Don't do it with a task killer app. Use your settings. 

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I sometimes experience that sudden draining of the battery but not so sudden. What's noticeable is when the screen heats up. So I guess it's not the Android but the phone. I have been observing that heating and the only recourse is to shut down otherwise the heat would remain and the battery would be drained within an hour. Sometimes I physically take off the battery to avert overheating.

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Custom roms can also cause this to happen. I had an S3 mini that used to last me up to 4 days on a full charge (with stock rom). And after I flashed a Cyanogenmod rom and I found I could barely get through a full day even with my phone on standby most of the time. 

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I sometimes experience that sudden draining of the battery but not so sudden. What's noticeable is when the screen heats up. So I guess it's not the Android but the phone. I have been observing that heating and the only recourse is to shut down otherwise the heat would remain and the battery would be drained within an hour. Sometimes I physically take off the battery to avert overheating.

Your phone has something physically wrong with it and needs repair. You shouldn't use a mobile device that produces that much heat without having it checked. It is a safety issue. Issues that can cause it to heat up through the screen may start out small but inevitably get worse unless diagnosed and repaired. It could be a faulty battery, a faulty charging circuit or a defective processor. A lot of things can cause this and they are all bad if ignored.

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It's funny I see this thread just today, the other day when I woke up in the morning I woke up only to find my battery had drained to 0% overnight. Even though the previous night had enough charge left. I got a bit panicky, because this mobile has a factory defect (as far as I know most if not all Moto G phones belonging to this model do) that won't react to charging, unless it's being charged with a wall charger.  Has't happened again :) 

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In my case it happens when I am in a remote area where network coverage is very poor.  But it will take three to four  hours to drain completely.  I believe it has something more to do with the coverage issue than the syndrome being discussed here.   I think in a low coverage area when the device continuously search for network it may need a lot of battery power which in turn results in an immediate draining of battery. 

So whenever I am in a bad network area, i use a basic Samsung model which never drains so fast.  My smart phone cannot hold power in a low coverage area.

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That was always the case of my previous android phone. I don't know if there was something wrong with the battery or if the phone really needed to be repaired. I have even used all those battery-saving apps but they never worked on my phone. I guess the quality of that android was not really good. 

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Your phone has something physically wrong with it and needs repair. You shouldn't use a mobile device that produces that much heat without having it checked. It is a safety issue. Issues that can cause it to heat up through the screen may start out small but inevitably get worse unless diagnosed and repaired. It could be a faulty battery, a faulty charging circuit or a defective processor. A lot of things can cause this and they are all bad if ignored.

That's also my guess that something is wrong with my Cherry Mobile phone. However, when I related that to my wife, she said that her Samsung S3 sometimes manifests the same heat. Worse for her because she is using her Samsung as a phone so she cannot shut it down like what I do to my phone which I only use for accessing the internet.

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I have been experiencing this on my old phone. While I was at school, my battery went from 100% to 40% in an hour. It was also super hot on the back of my phone. I took it up to AT&T to find out that my battery pack was expanding, which can be very dangerous. They told be that it could have blown up, which is a major safety hazard. So don't wait. Check in with your service provider ASAP. This is a safety hazard.

They offered to replace the phone for free (since my contract was about to expire) and I recently upgraded to a Galaxy S6 Edge. Really happy with it so far.

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I have been experiencing this on my old phone. While I was at school, my battery went from 100% to 40% in an hour. It was also super hot on the back of my phone. I took it up to AT&T to find out that my battery pack was expanding, which can be very dangerous. They told be that it could have blown up, which is a major safety hazard. So don't wait. Check in with your service provider ASAP. This is a safety hazard.

They offered to replace the phone for free (since my contract was about to expire) and I recently upgraded to a Galaxy S6 Edge. Really happy with it so far.

This is not sudden battery drain syndrome. You had a bad battery, bad charging circuit in the phone, or bad charger. Sudden battery drain syndrome is an intermittent software issue caused by bug in Google Services that already has a patch in the works. It isn't a hardware issue and does not relate to heat.

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Usually when my battery life is around 40 percent , I don't hesitate to hurry up and charge my phone,  I experience a lot of sudden battery train when I am usually around 70 percent.  I also don't play games while charging because your phone is not really charging while you are playing a power hungry game. 

 

After playing as you charge and your battery reached 100 percent, try to turn off your phone and turn it on again, you will notice your battery is not 100 percent anymore. Sometimes its dropped to 1 percent battery life.

 

Back to the topic,  I always set Google store, Chrome and YouTube on factory version and after few minute they were instantly updated.  My only way to stop them from updating is to turn off my WiFi.  So they already patched the problem of some Google services that consumes a lot of power ? Now if they will only patch all that crashing. 

I always thought I have a faulty battery but a change of charger, made a lot of difference, I have more battery longevity when I get rid of my cheap chargers. 

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I've had this happen to me many times too, sometimes worse than others. But I also get this problem where my phone will say it's at 2%, then I plug it in and it suddenly says it's at 62%. It's strange and you'd think they would be able to avoid these problems.

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I think Android in their new version called Marshmallow focused on battery backup too.  There is an application called "Doze" which is said to increase battery life up to 30%.  It understands the various interactions with the device by monitoring device usage and application usage patterns. If the device is left idle for long time it pauses all running applications automatically and thereby it helps to save a lot of battery power.  It can also recognise the motion of the device with the help of an accelerometer.  Is it cool if we get 30% more battery. 

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The other thing you can do is not allow apps to upgrade automatically. I have these setting changed in all of my apps, so it doesn't kill my battery so fast. Then you should also make sure to completely exit apps when you are not using them, because that's another thing that drains the battery. Even when my battery gets to 15 % it's still good for another 2 hours because I make sure of these simple steps.

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The other thing you can do is not allow apps to upgrade automatically. I have these setting changed in all of my apps, so it doesn't kill my battery so fast. Then you should also make sure to completely exit apps when you are not using them, because that's another thing that drains the battery. Even when my battery gets to 15 % it's still good for another 2 hours because I make sure of these simple steps.

Very bad idea. You are risking leaving potential security holes open for exploit by turning off automatic updates. You shouldn't ever let a lithium battery drop below 20% anyhow. Keeping it  at a 20% to 80% range is best for battery life. Don't worry about overnight charging because contrary to popular belief you can not overcharge the battery. Modern devices have micro-controllers and other built in protections that prevent a device from overcharging when the battery is full.

Exiting apps completely in the way you are probably referring to does nothing to effect battery life. That list of supposedly open apps you can bring up on both iOS and Android isn't a list of running apps. It is recently used apps stored in a very small amount of memory for quicker load times. Clearing them out doesn't close the apps because they aren't really running. It actually will slow your phone down to do this because it has to load completely from storage instead of RAM. Unused ram is wasted RAM and the OS will automatically clear unused items if the RAM is needed for something else.

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Battery on my Sony M2 is very good. Especially on Android KitKat 4.3. I was on WiFi, playing games, watching youtube videos and my battery was on 60% after four hours.

Lollipop is not good. Battery is very bad and I hope they will fix this in the next update.

Marshmallow will propably fix the problems as itaddict said.

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Wow, I'm a Nexus user and I've experienced this problem so many times. There were times where I had no clue why my charge was drained considerably when I had nothing else running in the background. At least now I know that there is a term for it. Hopefully, the fix you mentioned could fix this issue.

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Just avoid 3rd party chargers.  If your Phone or Tablet is Sony, Use a Sony charger.  Most 3rd party chargers are able to cause harm to your device. I heard there are some good 3rd party chargers out there but most of the time, Brand specific chargers are the best ones to use for charging.  3rd party chargers makes my ZTE tablet have a short battery life.

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2 hours ago, SundayDrivah said:

Just avoid 3rd party chargers.  If your Phone or Tablet is Sony, Use a Sony charger.  Most 3rd party chargers are able to cause harm to your device. I heard there are some good 3rd party chargers out there but most of the time, Brand specific chargers are the best ones to use for charging.  3rd party chargers makes my ZTE tablet have a short battery life.

Nope. Nothing wrong with using a third party charger whatsoever. Just don't buy a cheap knock off or one that isn't rated properly for the device. Chargers aren't shortening your battery life by the way. A bad charger could be a fire hazard though.

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On 10/2/2015, 5:45:21, itaddict said:

I think Android in their new version called Marshmallow focused on battery backup too.  There is an application called "Doze" which is said to increase battery life up to 30%.  It understands the various interactions with the device by monitoring device usage and application usage patterns. If the device is left idle for long time it pauses all running applications automatically and thereby it helps to save a lot of battery power.  It can also recognise the motion of the device with the help of an accelerometer.  Is it cool if we get 30% more battery. 

That's good news for me. Until now, I am using my old phone for communication and my smart phone is only for internet access. My main reason is the battery. My Android wouldn't last a day with its full power, it's like an 8-cylinder car that eats a lot of battery. But when this Marshmallow is true to its claim about battery power then maybe I can use my smart phone for all intents and purposes.

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On Wed Nov 04 2015 03:40:30 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard, nytegeek said:

Nope. Nothing wrong with using a third party charger whatsoever. Just don't buy a cheap knock off or one that isn't rated properly for the device. Chargers aren't shortening your battery life by the way. A bad charger could be a fire hazard though.

I have heard about the flight stewardess who died because of her 3rd party charger.  I really wish there is a way to know if a 3rd party charger is high quality and wont mess up my battery life.  ZTE is not a common brand on my country and its hard to find a great charger that is compatible with the ZTE brand. Its easier to find SamSung and Apple chargers because they were more popular.

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1 hour ago, SundayDrivah said:

I have heard about the flight stewardess who died because of her 3rd party charger.  I really wish there is a way to know if a 3rd party charger is high quality and wont mess up my battery life.  ZTE is not a common brand on my country and its hard to find a great charger that is compatible with the ZTE brand. Its easier to find SamSung and Apple chargers because they were more popular.

That's the thing. It wasn't because it was a third party charger. It was because it was a poorly made counterfeit charger. A product being passed of as the genuine thing isn't something that should deter people from using after market chargers. There are plenty of well known reliable brand names for third party charging devices.

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40 minutes ago, nytegeek said:

That's the thing. It wasn't because it was a third party charger. It was because it was a poorly made counterfeit charger. A product being passed of as the genuine thing isn't something that should deter people from using after market chargers. There are plenty of well known reliable brand names for third party charging devices.

There are lots of counterfeit here, not only charger but also phones. There was this iPhone that really looks iPhone in any angle but it is running on Android simply because it is an imitation. With the charger, we are careful because it is a disaster to buy one that is cheap but would explode.

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      Aside from vertical apps I also can't stand vertical videos,  I don't know why people loves uploading them. I don't really want to watch videos that were vertical. Just imagine watching a full length movie that is filmed vertically. Do you prefer using your tablets vertically or horizontally? When I see video thumbnails in Facebook or YouTube that were obviously upwards in orientation, I refuse to watch it. I know most vertical videos are taken with cellphones but some people also makes them with tablets.
      What is your opinions about vertical tablet apps and vertical videos?  The screenshot below is an example of a vertical app.

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